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From: Humanist Discussion Group <willard.mccarty-AT-mccarty.org.uk>
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Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 06:42:10 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [Humanist] 22.532 cognition "thought and language"


                 Humanist Discussion Group, Vol. 22, No. 532.
         Centre for Computing in the Humanities, King's College London
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        Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 07:17:11 -0800
        From: Nathaniel Bobbitt <flautabaja-AT-hotmail.com>
        Subject: cognition "thought and language"
        In-Reply-To: <20090214082735.ECAAF2EDCB-AT-woodward.joyent.us>


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Willard,
This is a communication for you. Also, I am attaching a one page proposal for a paper on cognition in rhetoric composition theory. This paper revisits the role of "thought and language." My long term work addresses re-write systems and the role of notational systems in knowledge systems.
Currently, I am working build bridges between the 4C community (http://www.ncte.org/cccc/conv) and the digital humanities community.
NatRE: out of the forest or out of the paper woods (on digital humanities and play)
When people are consumers of knowledge rather than practitioners of knowledge gathering all kinds of havoc are close at hand:

Someone announces:

"I want to get out of the forest!"

"Another person counters...Do you mean out of the paper woods...of textuality?"
A passerby approaches the two noting a degree of cross-talking going on, waits for the
discussion to leave an opening. The passerby looking both ways or trying hard to balance eye contact between the two says "let me see, let me listen, let me contribute."
The other two are waiting. 
What you bring are a pack of associations. Keep bringing more associations and we are even more in the fog...out of the fog stands the prospect of how to become knowledge gathers rather than consumers of short-cuts, abbreviations, easy packaging of ideas.
Stop playing games the other two say.

The third comes back with her own lines:
Games and digital humanities?
"On what ground" she says
Poe's? Anagrams, his writings on codes?
Stendahl's the Red and Black...need i say more...
games are as much a literary commodity as games are a form of interactive media.
Marllame played with chance...Hesse talked about chess and the magus.

I hear there is guy at psu that talks about alternatives and substitutions as would a
linguists, parsing/phrasing English grammar. Diagramming of structure he talks about. How to bring play-back...feedback...and play-back (by sam and bogey). Yes he has a formal look somewhere between Barthes, Saussure, Derrida, and Deleuze...all the time not forgetting Bruno,Vico, Joyce, or beckett...also with Pound.

Gaming as a mark of variability (formally....structurally) and empirically the glance toward some other form of expressivity, intention, and why not intensity or attraction. What it is that leads us to the brink of communication...authenticity...correspondence...at levels that rival Simone Weil's essay on personality....opening
with

"you do not interest me"
When there is a play on that phrase.

But the play of light...the play of going down the slopes...the play of taking a walk with someone that wants to be, to investigate...to integrate...to be the culture ... oh yes

What happened... one finally appears thick and true...but hidden relationships, the emergent relationships, the mining of a text or a conversation...all of these things await as did that dawn when Paradise Lost came to a close and the reading of readings started something that needed to make more out of a book or a text.

What to do with authenticity? How does one respond or not? Where does one take their intellectual debt? Does one seek titles? Does one find a play in the form of community or civic action. Does one place a mirror in front of another and say yes back to that person. Speech and thought hangout Language and thought hangout. Speech blocks language and thought. frameworks to be found exchages written in sketches...the end of the book (de grammatology)...who said that...the issue of orality heard from creeley, charles bernstein, denis tedlock, and grads at the buffalo poetic program. with susan howe looking around the corner at paintings but with her own emily D.

that guy at psu studies hard...maps use and analysis, linguistics, landscapes, urbran ag (a research group forming)...it is a matter of boundaries by his way of speaking to her or to anyone that listens.

out there over the horizon what is gathered what is lost what is awaiting the forest. the forest in the forest...the mind and how fast it is and how slow writing is as a communication of the mind. the multi-directions as the agent of the speed of the mind could not see beyond her vanity that she had said the one thing that opens all the keys. she unlocked the something that stands fiction on its head...a pure visionary laughing with a cassandra smile. 

this guy in psu is left to take on that claim to make what is her dismay into something , borrowed by a classmate, as something worth taking on.

how to keep up with the mind as fast as it explores associative space while writing is a slow thick syrup that draws one back...against time's arrow....

simone and sartre knew what to do with each other...as do the mirror numbers speak each others pattern as escher set looking at the divisions of a plane into symmetry patterns...or as blake stood by his visions unspeakable etched in colors....

oh here is something that came my way on digital humanities... myself I look at 

computational linguistics
stephen bird http://www.ldc.upenn.edu/sb/
kaplan and kaplan
yes i am ready to work with you

What’s Going On in Digital Humanities?

A HASTAC Scholars Discussion Forum, starting February 16, 2009 at www.hastac.orghttp://www.hastac.org

In the recent HASTAC Scholars Discussion Forum on “The Future of the Digital Humanities<http://www.hastac.org/scholars/forum/02-02-09The-Future-of-the-Digital-Humanities> featuring Brett Bobley of the NEH's Office of Digital Humanities, Willard McCarty weighed in from King's College London suggesting that instead of trying to categorize the digital humanities as a “discipline” or an “attitude,” we should instead “ask, ‘What's going on?’ and note how differently humanities computing is playing out across the various digital humanities. In other words, ask not what the practice is, rather where we're going and what sort of institutional arrangements suit that going best.”

And so, as a follow up to our recent forum, and with nods to both Erving Goffman and Marvin Gaye, we raise the question: “What’s going on in the digital humanities today?” When the forum opens on Monday, February 16, we invite you to report on how the digital humanities are playing out in your institution, organization, or location. Tell us about the innovative projects you are launching, the groups you are forming, the support you are finding or lacking, the training you are receiving or offering and the courses you are teaching or taking. We hope you will join this forum facilitated by HASTAC Scholars Staci Shultz and Isabel Milan and help us see “what’s going on in the digital humanities” today!

Staci Shultz is a PhD student in the Joint Program in English & Education at the University of Michigan. She has a bachelor’s degree in English from UC Berkeley and a master’s degree in English from Boston College. Her dissertation focuses on college students’ participation in online fandoms and the ways in particular that fan fiction sites sponsor literacy practices. Research on emerging spaces and discourses, she argues, can lead to more innovative, relevant, and engaging composition pedagogy that taps into students’ experiences in the extracurriculum.

Isabel A. Milan is a doctoral student in American Culture at the University of Michigan. She received her master’s degree in Ethnic Studies from San Francisco State University and her bachelor’s degree in both Anthropology and Women’s Studies from the University of California, Santa Barbara. Her current research interests include new media/digital technologies and globalization; children’s literature and multimedia; transnational feminist, queer and critical race theories. She is especially interested in the responsible development and usage of technology, and is also a strong advocate of technology’s role in education and community networking/mobilization.

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