Humanist Discussion Group, Vol. 38, No. 196.
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[1] From: Mcgann, Jerome (jjm2f) <jjm2f@virginia.edu>
Subject: Re: [Humanist] 38.195: a (disputable?) thesis (61)
[2] From: maurizio lana <maurizio.lana@uniupo.it>
Subject: Re: [Humanist] 38.195: a (disputable?) thesis (30)
[3] From: Catharine Mason <cmason.nc@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Humanist] 38.195: a (disputable?) thesis (24)
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Date: 2024-10-21 12:28:00+00:00
From: Mcgann, Jerome (jjm2f) <jjm2f@virginia.edu>
Subject: Re: [Humanist] 38.195: a (disputable?) thesis
This question was a serious practical issue at Virginia from the mid-1990s and
eventually resulted in the following disciplinary and curricular result: that a
digital humanities certificate could be earned and added to any BA or BS degree
with a traditional major. That is the “tendency” Willard refers to, and I
believe equivalent decisions have been common in other colleges and
universities.
I also believe that “tendency” is a correct interpretation of how these
engineering tools and procedures can and should be taken up in traditional
Humanities disciplines. Mechanical engineering has been essential to the
development of the printing and the print industries from the beginnings, and
its impact on the disciplines that investigate its operations and its history
are well known Electrical engineering began its equivalent career some 200
years ago. Both advance the practice and learning of Language and Communication
– and of course higher ed has departments of Linguistics and Communication.
For the practice of Science as understood under the horizon of Modernity,
subdisciplinary specialties are proper and expected developments.
I suppose Willard poses the question because of AI and certain “tendencies” in
its development that see the emergence of a transhuman order (not, I think, what
Dante had in mind when he used the verb trashumanar – more perhaps like what
Stapledon imagined in Starmaker, and forecast in Last and First Men.
Jerry
From: Humanist <humanist@dhhumanist.org>
Date: Monday, October 21, 2024 at 3:58 AM
To: Mcgann, Jerome (jjm2f) <jjm2f@virginia.edu>
Subject: [Humanist] 38.195: a (disputable?) thesis
Humanist Discussion Group, Vol. 38, No. 195.
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Date: 2024-10-21 06:56:36+00:00
From: Willard McCarty <willard.mccarty@mccarty.org.uk>
Subject: a thesis
I want to put before you a thesis you may wish strongly to dispute. In
fact that's what I am hoping for, that someone here will provide
evidence that my thesis does not survive close inspection. It is this:
that the dominant tendency in digital humanities is its absorption into
older disciplines and departments as a set of tools and techniques to
pursue existing agendas.
Go to it, please. But evidence (if any) to the contrary is essential.
Yours,
WM
--
Willard McCarty,
Professor emeritus, King's College London;
Editor, Interdisciplinary Science Reviews; Humanist
www.mccarty.org.uk<http://www.mccarty.org.uk>
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Date: 2024-10-21 10:04:15+00:00
From: maurizio lana <maurizio.lana@uniupo.it>
Subject: Re: [Humanist] 38.195: a (disputable?) thesis
Il 21/10/24 09:58, Humanist ha scritto:
> I want to put before you a thesis you may wish strongly to dispute. In
> fact that's what I am hoping for, that someone here will provide
> evidence that my thesis does not survive close inspection. It is this:
> that the dominant tendency in digital humanities is its absorption into
> older disciplines and departments as a set of tools and techniques to
> pursue existing agendas.
> Go to it, please. But evidence (if any) to the contrary is essential.
your question Willard has a reciprocal in the fact that there are not so
much places where a digital humanist is hired for doing digital
humanities, or for teaching digital humanities.
this is also because the DH are more and more becoming institutionalized
(sort of : if you cannot eliminate them, incorporate them)
Maurizio
PS: and it remains true what chance has made appear in signature:
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é imperioso mantermos a esperança mesmo quando
a dureza ou aspereza da realidade sugira o contrário
paulo freire
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Maurizio Lana
Università del Piemonte Orientale
Dipartimento di Studi Umanistici
Piazza Roma 36 - 13100 Vercelli
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Date: 2024-10-21 08:24:32+00:00
From: Catharine Mason <cmason.nc@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Humanist] 38.195: a (disputable?) thesis
Dear William,
I would like to give thought to your statement, but I am not sure that I
fully understand it. Do you mean the "existing agendas" of those older
disciplines and departments, as they existed before the development of DH?
Such that DH has not reformulated their standing hypotheses, theoretical
standpoints, and interpretive methods?
Thanks for clarification!
Catharine Mason
--
Catharine Mason, PhD
Research Professor English and Linguistic Ethnography
Université de Caen Normandie
UFR LVE (Modern Languages Department)
14032 CAEN Cedex
France
Laboratoire CRISCO
http://crisco.unicaen.fr/membres/catharine-mason-919741.kjsp?RH=1536071353594
https://unicaen.academia.edu/CatharineMason
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