Humanist Discussion Group, Vol. 38, No. 391. Department of Digital Humanities, University of Cologne Hosted by DH-Cologne www.dhhumanist.org Submit to: humanist@dhhumanist.org Date: 2025-03-07 15:58:31+00:00 From: James Rovira <jamesrovira@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Humanist] 38.390: pubs: on computational literary criticism & a conversation with Claude 3.7 I'm sorry, but the description of literary analysis below is ridiculously reductive and seems to ignore the work that criticism has been doing since at least the 1970s. It sounds frankly ignorant, especially in the field of poetics, which in my opinion involves the closest reading of human writing possible. Furthermore, analysis provided by Large Language Models cannot by their nature be any kind of a substitute for a close reading of a text, much less a substitute for the variety of kinds of criticism made possible under the heading of "literary theory." I don't trust LLMs to manage polysemy unless individual words are coded separately for different senses or definitions of the same word, much less for multiple definitions operating at the same time in the same instance of use. My impression is that LLMs would flatten the meaning of texts rather than open them up unless some kind of close reading work is done ahead of time to account for polysemy. But that kind of work would pre-interpret the text behind the scenes without explanation. Rather than trying to replace theoretical approaches with LLMs, it might be more productive to think in terms of the kinds of interpretive work that is possible with LLMs -- in terms of value added. Jim R On Fri, Mar 7, 2025 at 1:45 AM Humanist <humanist@dhhumanist.org> wrote: > > Humanist Discussion Group, Vol. 38, No. 390. > Department of Digital Humanities, University of Cologne > Hosted by DH-Cologne > www.dhhumanist.org > Submit to: humanist@dhhumanist.org > > > > > Date: 2025-03-06 09:28:32+00:00 > From: William Benzon <bbenzon@mindspring.com> > Subject: Computation, Text, and Form in Literary Criticism: A > Conversation with Claude 3.7 > > That’s the title of a paper I recently posted. Here’s the abstract: > > Abstract: Literary criticism operates with contradictory definitions of > “text,” > rarely meaning simply the marks on a page. This makes it difficult to > establish > what “form” means. While critics do analyze features like rhyme and meter, > or > the distinction between story (fabula) and plot (syuzhet) criticism rarely > seeks > to understand how words are arranged in texts beyond these basics. Literary > criticism selectively borrowed from Lévi-Strauss's structural analysis of > myth > (e.g. the concept of binary oppositions), it ignored a systematic > methodology > that was essentially computational in nature and about form. Now, Large > Language > Models present a watershed moment for literary studies - they're > unavoidable and > demonstrate sophisticated capabilities. A cohort of younger scholars using > corpus linguistics and computational methods may represent a bridge between > computational and literary approaches. Will these scholars extend > computational > thinking from method to theory? - using computation not just as an > analytical > tool but as a framework for understanding how literary texts function – > that’s a > key issue currently before the discipline. > > You can download it here: > > Academia.edu: > > https://www.academia.edu/128029987/Computation_Text_and_Form_in_Literary_Criti cism_A_Conversation_with_Claude_3_7 > SSRN: https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=5166930 > ResearchGate: > https://www.researchgate.net/publication/389591524_Computation_Tex > t_and_Form_in_Literary_Criticism_A_Conversation_with_Claude_37 > <https://www.researchgate.net/publication/389591524_Computation_Text_and_Form_ in_Literary_Criticism_A_Conversation_with_Claude_37> > > > > William Benzon > bbenzon@mindspring.com > 917.717.9841 -- Dr. James Rovira <http://www.jamesrovira.com/> - *David Bowie and Romanticism <https://jamesrovira.com/2022/09/02/david-bowie-and-romanticism/>*, Palgrave Macmillan, 2022 - *Women in Rock, Women in Romanticism <https://www.routledge.com/Women-in-Rock-Women-in-Romanticism-The- Emancipation-of-Female-Will/Rovira/p/book/9781032069845>*, Routledge, 2023 _______________________________________________ Unsubscribe at: http://dhhumanist.org/Restricted List posts to: humanist@dhhumanist.org List info and archives at at: http://dhhumanist.org Listmember interface at: http://dhhumanist.org/Restricted/ Subscribe at: http://dhhumanist.org/membership_form.php