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Humanist Archives: Jan. 23, 2026, 6:12 a.m. Humanist 39.297 - on failure: Troth / Truth, failure

				
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    [1]    From: James Rovira <jamesrovira@gmail.com>
           Subject: Re: [Humanist] 39.295: on failure: Troth and Truth (20)

    [2]    From: Mcgann, Jerome (jjm2f) <jjm2f@virginia.edu>
           Subject: Re: [Humanist] 39.295: on failure: Troth and Truth (33)

    [3]    From: Andreas Gálffy <andrisgalffy@gmail.com>
           Subject: Another thought upon failure (21)


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        Date: 2026-01-22 23:27:10+00:00
        From: James Rovira <jamesrovira@gmail.com>
        Subject: Re: [Humanist] 39.295: on failure: Troth and Truth

Isn't part of the troth and truth in the dialectic between the two though?
Did he who made the lamb make thee?

Jim R

On Thu, Jan 22, 2026 at 2:21 AM Humanist <humanist@dhhumanist.org> wrote:

>
> Maurizio,
>
> Briefly: “The Lamb” is in key respects a far more Trothful — more
> affecting — poem than “The Tyger”.  “Failure” is at the heart of “The
> Tyger” but
> “The Lamb” lets the failing world see it needed worry about that.  Troth
> is way
> more helpful than Truth
>
> Jerry
>
>

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        Date: 2026-01-22 11:08:14+00:00
        From: Mcgann, Jerome (jjm2f) <jjm2f@virginia.edu>
        Subject: Re: [Humanist] 39.295: on failure: Troth and Truth

Correct that wretched robotic typo: not “needed", but “needn’t”.

Jerry

From: Humanist <humanist@dhhumanist.org>
Date: Thursday, January 22, 2026 at 2:20 AM
To: Mcgann, Jerome (jjm2f) <jjm2f@virginia.edu>
Subject: [Humanist] 39.295: on failure: Troth and Truth


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        Date: 2026-01-21 11:45:25+00:00
        From: Mcgann, Jerome (jjm2f) <jjm2f@virginia.edu>
        Subject: Re: [Humanist] 39.293: on failure

Maurizio,

      Briefly: “The Lamb” is in key respects a far more Trothful — more
affecting — poem than “The Tyger”.  “Failure” is at the heart of “The Tyger” but
“The Lamb” lets the failing world see it needed worry about that.  Troth is way
more helpful than Truth

Jerry



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        Date: 2026-01-22 07:57:31+00:00
        From: Andreas Gálffy <andrisgalffy@gmail.com>
        Subject: Another thought upon failure

Good afternoon everyone,

it may have been out of topic or rejected for some reason not (yet)
communicated to me; my initial answer to 39.275 went somehow lost?
Nonetheless, I would like to add my humble thoughts about failures as it
may encourage people:

if I am permit to add a humble and maybe trivial thought: when pursuing my
experiments on various fields, I do not consider the success (of the
experiment) as important, nor that the expected result occurs but the
experiment protocol (German Versuchsprotokoll). If the experiment has been
successful in itself but no protocol has been kept, it may become a failure
when it comes to reproducing the initial steps. That may be important for
maintenance. If on the other hand, a failed experiment has been conducted
with a well-documented experiment protocol, no matter the project's
outcome, I would regard it as successful because others know what has been
done and should maybe be avoided in the future ...

Thank you very much for any kind of remarks!
Kind regards
András Gálffy


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